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When I was (briefly) at the anthropology department at Kent for my PhD, I ended up in a seminar called 'Thinking Like a Cheese.' I had been talking to a lecturer about methods to ask local people in Vietnam about saola when she suddenly said "I have to go to the departmental seminar now. You should come along, it's about local knowledge." I'd seen the title but thought it would be a metaphor - that 'thinking like a cheese' might mean 'thinking with holes through it' or something.

I went in early and the room filled up around me. There was no way to sneak out and I found myself thinking "I am stuck in a seminar about cheese." 'Cheese' is just one of those words that are inherently silly. And, after a while, the whole thing became about me trying not to laugh every time he said 'cheese.'

I remember coming up with a 'theory of mongery' with an anthropologist in the pub (iron, war and cheese and fish) and just thinking that it showed up anthropology as a game in mad connections. How could there be any possible relevance to my work.

The seminar compared the enterprise of Greg Schneider (?) creating 'Stitchelton' as a non-pasteurized version of Stilton (Stilton is defined as a pasteurized cheese) with a traditional cheesemaker in France who used a generations-old wooden forme.

So, my reaction to this is something like 'oh, back here again.'

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I wonder if Leroi-Gourhan's misreading of the work on the walls is a clue to the doorway into an accompanied realism closer to traditional than professional but even more entangled. He was closer than the "everything hunting magic" business (animals are good to eat) that came before him but I think the user notice on the sign at well at world's end might be animals are good to be, as in both a return to peer relation and a reapproach to shape-shift.

I guess either you think the discussion in actually closed and all this remains primate speaking grand monologue in the black or its is potentially a listening to some one(s) who can actually inform/teach/compliment our lack for reals. One is language as a closed loop subject to the entropy unto an un-Worded despair, the other is an Open plenum at the mercy of poetry and the rigors/entry fees of translation.

Thinking along those well-known neolithic footprints of a torch bearing young human intermingled with those of the dog companion I wonder what sort of barriers we live and wish within were unimagined in that night that made the languaging between the both and many less easily tipped into the lesser realisms.

Having seen what can be built and done with ease by a humanity whose majority knows that cheese and snails and rats and fire as closer to beings of Problem-to-solve than Word-to-translate you will maybe forgive the madness that would like to see what a torch bearing child-likeentanglement of wolf and human who isn't so sure that rind has nothing to say about the thresholding of culture. And by rind saying I don't mean as metaphor calling from inside the house but as the people of its own world on embassy. I guess you choose your kingdom of foolishness, Faerie or Hiroshima doesn't seem as hyperbolic on examination as it might sound off the cuff.

Obviously I loved this post, Dougald. I have been trying to hear in the way the beavers deal with flow and breach something of how to make theology and such. Rind seems like another voice worth sifting for word back as well. Scientifically speaking, I have been up a bit sleepless in small hours thinking about what sort of note be most appropriate to leave for the rats we have been negotiating terms with this last season. Full disclosure regarding madness and the university of the easily dismissed.

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